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Lichenochora hyperphysciae information
Jenny Seawright, 05-05-2015 23:47
Jenny SeawrightHello all,

I wondered if anyone might have details of the spore sizes etc for Lichenochora hyperphysciae, a lichenicolous fungus on Hyperphyscia adglutinata?

With regards,
Jenny
Jenny Seawright, 06-05-2015 20:46
Jenny Seawright
Re : Lichenochora hyperphysciae information
Hello again,

The reason for the above request is that I found a lichenicolous fungus forming abundant black perithecia on the lobes of Hyperphyscia adglutinata. Spores were hyaline, 1-septate, 12.5-15(-17) x 5-6 µm and somewhat 'sole-shaped'.

I reached Lichenochora using the 2010 draft keys to the Lichenicolous Fungi
of Great Britain, Ireland, the Channel Islands, Iberian Peninsula, and Canary Islands - they give details of Lichenochora obscuroides (with slightly larger spores) on Phaeophyscia but nothing for Hyperphyscia adglutinata.


Googling produced a 2011 record for Lichenochora hyperphysciae on Hyperphyscia adglutinata:
"Etayo, J. 2011. Lichenochora hyperphysciae, a new lichenicolous fungus found in Mexico and Spain. Bibliotheca Lichenologica 106:53–56. [New species: Lichenochora hyperphysciae Etayo (on Hyperphyscia adglutinata).]. "


I'm hoping I'm on the right track which is why I wondered if anyone might have access to this publication with the spore size etc for Lichenochora hyperphysciae?


With regards,


Jenny


 

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Alain GARDIENNET, 06-05-2015 21:57
Alain GARDIENNET
Re : Lichenochora hyperphysciae information

Hi Jenny,


It's perhaps not a Lichenochora. Have you more informations (asci, paraphyses s.l., ...) ?


You should ask directly to Javier informations about L. hyperphysciae.


Alain

Jenny Seawright, 06-05-2015 22:59
Jenny Seawright
Re : Lichenochora hyperphysciae information
Hi Alain,

Thanks for your reply but no paraphyses that I could see and only the indistinct asci that are (just) visible in the microphoto. It was a very bad section cut with the help of a propped torch as the lightbulb in my dissecting 'scope had just blown.....!

As I'm waiting for a replacement bulb I'll email the images to Brian Coppins and see what he might suggest.

With regards,
Jenny
Alain GARDIENNET, 07-05-2015 07:15
Alain GARDIENNET
Re : Lichenochora hyperphysciae information

Ok, wait and see...


Stil many solutions to my mind, but one first point is to describe : ascomata, is it perithecia ? With such ascospores I would think more at other genus than Lichenochora. 


Keep in touch,


Alain

Jenny Seawright, 07-05-2015 21:32
Jenny Seawright
Re : Lichenochora hyperphysciae information
Oh very, very embarrassed......
Now I can see what I'm looking at the host is Phaeophyscia orbicularis and there are ascomata with indistinct margins rather than perithecia.

No wonder the spores looked arthoniod - my spore measurements slightly longer than those given in the key but Arthonia phaeophysciae?

My apologies for posting before I was able to properly examine the specimen,
Jenny
Alain GARDIENNET, 07-05-2015 21:51
Alain GARDIENNET
Re : Lichenochora hyperphysciae information

Hi Jenny,


Don't worry, identify lichen + lichenicolous fungi is not easy !


Alain

Jenny Seawright, 07-05-2015 21:54
Jenny Seawright
Re : Lichenochora hyperphysciae information
Thanks Alain - can you confirm it is Arthonia phaeophysciae or might it be something else?
Alain GARDIENNET, 07-05-2015 22:05
Alain GARDIENNET
Re : Lichenochora hyperphysciae information

It was my first idea.


Nevertheless, at least check if hymenium is J+ (red wine).


Alain

Jenny Seawright, 07-05-2015 22:46
Jenny Seawright
Re : Lichenochora hyperphysciae information
Yes, J+ but only briefly
Javier Etayo, 07-05-2015 22:57
Re : Lichenochora hyperphysciae information
Dear Jenny and Alain, 
excuse me by my delay. Yes, it seemed Arthonia phaeophysciae. Lichenochora spores are very typical with a  very reduced lower cell and the fungus forms galls.
If you are interested in the paper on Lichenochora I can send the paper to your email.
Jenny Seawright, 07-05-2015 23:37
Jenny Seawright
Re : Lichenochora hyperphysciae information
Thank you Javier, a copy of your paper on Lichenochora would be very much appreciated.
My address is seawright.jenny@gmail.com

With regards,
Jenny
Alain GARDIENNET, 08-05-2015 08:14
Alain GARDIENNET
Re : Lichenochora hyperphysciae information

Dear Javier,


I would appreciate the copy too ...


Alain