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Discomycete on Quercus rubra branches
Alex Akulov, 14-08-2012 19:19
Alex AkulovDear Friends
Can you help me with identification of discomycete sample from Q. rubra branches?
When I collect it, I was sure that it is Pezicula sp., but I meet smaller and distinctly verrucose spores.

Grateful before,
Alex
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Hans-Otto Baral, 14-08-2012 19:38
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Discomycete on Quercus rubra branches
Hi Alex

did you test with Lugol?  I suppose it is a Pezicula which should show a deep red apical ring.  Don't use Melzer 'cause that would resulat in no reaction at all.

Zotto
Alex Akulov, 14-08-2012 20:21
Alex Akulov
Re : Discomycete on Quercus rubra branches
Thank you, Zotto,
But I dont seen red apical ring in Lugol.
Alex.
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Alex Akulov, 14-08-2012 20:38
Alex Akulov
Re : Discomycete on Quercus rubra branches
Sligthly roseous tips can be considered in several asci, but it is not deep red.
Alex
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Hans-Otto Baral, 14-08-2012 20:47
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Discomycete on Quercus rubra branches
Maybe you need to apply more of your solution.  You are sure it does not contain chloralhydrate?

Zotto
Alex Akulov, 14-08-2012 20:53
Alex Akulov
Re : Discomycete on Quercus rubra branches
Can it be immature Pezicula cinnamomea?

I used pure Lugol.

Alex
Hans-Otto Baral, 14-08-2012 20:58
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Discomycete on Quercus rubra branches
Yes, I suppose, but I would rather say dead instead of immature. The asci have their deep red apical ring already very early during development, when the spores are still not present.

Your Lugol should look honey-brown in the bottle, if yellow you need to add a few iodine crystals. But the pure red reaction in Pezicula (type rr) is shown with yellow Lugol also.
Alex Akulov, 14-08-2012 20:58
Alex Akulov
Re : Discomycete on Quercus rubra branches
I try to prepare fresh Lugol solution tomorrow and to make photo again.
Alex
Alex Akulov, 14-08-2012 21:02
Alex Akulov
Re : Discomycete on Quercus rubra branches
Thank you for advise!
Really, I was able to see the redish color only in the very immature asci, where spores has only begun to take shape. 

Alex