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very strange Diaporthales on Ulmus
Björn Wergen, 10-12-2012 20:33
Björn WergenHello everybody,

unfortunately I have another strange pyrenomycete growing on dead attached Ulmus twigs, of which I do not know what it can be. I have seen similarities to Anisogramma, Mamiania and Apioporthe, but there is no species which fits with this one here:

The fruitbodies grow between the surface of the wood and the bark, they consist of a stroma with hairy surface which is somewhat flattened, and several perithecia inside. Macroscopically it reminds me on some Splanchnonema or even Pseudomassaria.

Sp 14-17x5-7µm, clearly apiosporous, hyalin, smooth, I have seen a rest of a hyaline sheath surrounding the spores. Asci with distinct apical apparatus (Congo), IKI-; Sp mostly uniseriate, sometimes partly biseriate.

Any idea?

regards,
björn

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David Malloch, 10-12-2012 20:52
David Malloch
Re : very strange Diaporthales on Ulmus
Hi Björn,
This reminds me of a species of MelanconisMelanoconis chrysostroma has similar ascospores but grows on Carpinus spp.  Does it produce conidia?
Dave
Björn Wergen, 10-12-2012 21:02
Björn Wergen
Re : very strange Diaporthales on Ulmus
Hi David,

I haven't seen any conidia, and I do not believe that it is a Melanconis. I have compared the finding with several species of Melanconis, but it has very different features.

regards,
björn
Björn Wergen, 10-12-2012 21:37
Björn Wergen
Re : very strange Diaporthales on Ulmus
I have found some mature fruitbodies, which have very dark perithecia and stroma. Spores are apiosporous anyway...
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Björn Wergen, 10-12-2012 22:17
Björn Wergen
Re : very strange Diaporthales on Ulmus
After looking for some further perithecia, I have found this conidial state from which I think it belongs to the Diaporthales sp ;)

Conidia are 8-9x2,4-3,2µm, aseptated, hyaline.

I have also attached a new cross section of a fb.
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Björn Nordén, 10-12-2012 22:54
Re : very strange Diaporthales on Ulmus

Hi Björn,


Seems to me too that Anisogramma may be reasonable, but no idea for a species... Nice finding

Alain GARDIENNET, 10-12-2012 23:36
Alain GARDIENNET
Re : very strange Diaporthales on Ulmus
Hi BJörn,
I think that your species is very  closed to Apiospora apiospora. But...
It's an american species growing on Ulmus and Wehmeyer gave : 11-14 x 2.5-5.5 µm, and Ellis & Everhart gave for the basionym Diaporthe apiospora : 11-15 x 6-10 µm.
Perhaps is it an european Apioporthe apiospora ? 
Alain
Björn Wergen, 11-12-2012 01:08
Björn Wergen
Re : very strange Diaporthales on Ulmus
Hi Alain,

I think Apioporthe apiospora comes closest. The description giving by Wehmeyer has similarities with my finding, except the spore size. But I think it is A. apiospora.

Perhaps there is another idea. I recently find another species on these Ulmus twigs: Eutypella stellulata.

Many thanks to all who have written here until now :)

regards,
björn
Alain GARDIENNET, 11-12-2012 07:34
Alain GARDIENNET
Re : very strange Diaporthales on Ulmus

I agree with you. In Ellis & Ev. the width is like your one. But  as I said, perhaps  we can find some little differences between the two continents. Molecular study or culture perhaps would bring the answer to the question.
Eutypella stellulata is a common species in the Old Continent, ouf ! (ouf != ah ! = Ach !) 
Alain

Björn Wergen, 11-12-2012 11:14
Björn Wergen
Re : very strange Diaporthales on Ulmus
Merci Alain:)

but E. stellulata is a new species for me, even if it seems to be common :P ouf ^^

Who is willing to have the Apioporthe for molecular studies?
Christian Lechat, 11-12-2012 17:23
Christian Lechat
Re : very strange Diaporthales on Ulmus
Hi Björn,
if you want you can send your specimen to me, I will try to obtain molecular data

Christian
Björn Wergen, 12-12-2012 10:52
Björn Wergen
Re : very strange Diaporthales on Ulmus
Hi all,
I have to thank Walter Jaklitsch, he has the idea of Melanconiella, which has aberrated spores due to the cold weather.

I am now also sure the substrate is not Ulmus, I have compared the twigs and there had been several from Carpinus, which we had collected per random. At least this was not a professional work, but we have gained a new very interesting species :)

regards,
björn