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Etimología Allophylaria subliciformis
Rubén Martínez-Gil, 21-01-2017 23:47
Rubén Martínez-Gil

Hola a todos.


¿Pueden ayudarme a averiguar la etimología de Allophylaria y también de subliciformis?


Creo que Allophylaria viene de "Allo", diferente o distinto y "phylaria"???, de ¿Phyllaria?.


También necesito ayuda con la etimología de subliciformis, "sub", casi o menos, "lici", no sé de dónde viene y luego "formis". Sería ¿asi con forma de lici?


Gracias por su ayuda.


Rubén

Viktorie Halasu, 22-01-2017 03:51
Viktorie Halasu
Re : Etimología Allophylaria subliciformis
According to this dictionary (https://books.google.sk/books?id=cjdLAAAAcAAJ&pg=PT1157&lpg=PT1157&dq=%22sublicus%22&source=bl&ots=bDALcP_51m&sig=yBnSy2SCg0UQK42_AC_f-rJFf2k&hl=cs&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiW2Lap2tTRAhVElxoKHQJHDIIQ6AEISTAJ#v=onepage&q=%22sublicus%22&f=false), "sublica" means a (wooden) pile or post, and "sublicius" = made of such piles. Index fungorum quotes Karsten's name as being originally "sublicaeformis". Perhaps the fungus resembles it somehow?
Chris Yeates, 22-01-2017 04:30
Chris Yeates
Re : Etimología Allophylaria subliciformis
see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pons_Sublicius - perhaps the stems of Artemisia vulgaris on which the fungus was originally collected reminded the author of this?
Hans-Otto Baral, 22-01-2017 09:40
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Etimología Allophylaria subliciformis
I would expect that subliciformis refers to the fungus, not the substrate. But I do not know to which part of the fungus.

Allophylaria could mean "different" and "related", but also here I am not sure. It was erected as a section of Peziza in 1869 directly after Phialea (= Cyathicua), but Karsten did not mention that genus. But he included also Pezicula eucrita in this sectionm maybe because of the similar spores and red ascus iodine reaction.

In the protologue of sublicoides he does not say anything that could refer to the etymology of the epithet. He compared the species with Bisporella/Calycina citrina and B. pallescens.

Zotto
Rubén Martínez-Gil, 22-01-2017 22:29
Rubén Martínez-Gil
Re : Etimología Allophylaria subliciformis

Gracias por su ayuda, Viktorie, Chris, Zotto.


Todas son buenas ideas, pero la de Chris sí podría ser, por la forma de los atotecios (vistos horizontalmente) que se asemeja a los soportes que sujetan el puente.