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Sarcosypha coccinea?
William Slosse, 26-01-2020 22:01
William SlosseHello Forum,

I recently found this Sarcosypha in a hazel grove.
The austriaca species was already known in the immediate vicinity.
It seems clear to me that the hairs on the specimens discussed here are not curled and the spores are not dented.
Correct when I identify these specimens as Sarcosypha coccinea?

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Hans-Otto Baral, 26-01-2020 22:08
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Sarcosypha coccinea?
Yes, this is clearly S. coccinea.
Michel Hairaud, 26-01-2020 22:30
Michel Hairaud
Re : Sarcosypha coccinea?

Hi William and Zotto,


I am used to find these two common species but never both in the same sites. In Brittany where the soil is mainly acid, austriaca is the only one to be found but in rare and  small natural calcareous areas or sites where lime has been produced.


If this collection comes from an area where austriaca is common, it would be interesting to find out whether it is a natural calcareous site or for some other reason.


Amitiés. Michel


 

William Slosse, 26-01-2020 22:56
William Slosse
Re : Sarcosypha coccinea?
Hello Michel and Otto,
thanks for your feedback.
The growing place is situated on a site that belongs to an entrance and exit complex of the E40 in Veurne (Belgium) and is therefore a rather artificial environment.
A few decades ago it was decided to forest these zones with mixed Hazel-Elder stocks, Oak stocks, and so on.
In the meantime, this zone has developed into a mycologically very interesting area where new surprises appear year after year.
I add to this a recording of a specimen found in the immediate vicinity (500 meters) march 2019 that I then identified as austriaca. Unfortunately I no longer have images of the spores.
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Hans-Otto Baral, 27-01-2020 08:17
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Sarcosypha coccinea?
Indeed the hairs look like austriaca. Was the substrate different? Did you try to identify the present host? Hazel is easily recognized in radial section of the wood by ladder-like holes between the vessels.
Jacky Launoy, 27-01-2020 09:22
Re : Sarcosypha coccinea?
William,

I have images of the spores from the collection we found together last year in Veurne. If this can help you ?
Gr
Jacky
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Hans-Otto Baral, 27-01-2020 09:56
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Sarcosypha coccinea?
Yes, the indentation at the spore ends supports S. austriaca.
William Slosse, 06-02-2020 13:50
William Slosse
Re : Sarcosypha coccinea?
Hello Michel and Zotto,
the answer took some time ...
The coccinea did indeed grow on Hazel. No doubt.
In the same area, as I mentioned about 500 meters away, we also found there last year austriaca. This one grew on a dead branch of Alnus glutinosa.

Regards,
William
Michel Hairaud, 06-02-2020 20:50
Michel Hairaud
Re : Sarcosypha coccinea?

THanks, William


Amitiés Michel