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Scopinella solani ?
Peter Welt,
13-06-2009 12:35
Dear Mr. Malloch: Can the Scopinella solani be? The spores are about 4-6 x 3,5-5,5 µm Unfortunately I work (1976) of them not. Peter
Perz Piotr,
13-06-2009 16:48
Re:Scopinella solani ?
A key to Scopinella species:
1. Fungicole, asci 2-4 spored ......................................................................... 2
1a. On other substrates, asci 8-spored .......................................................... 3
2. On Apiosporina morbosa, asci 2-spored
sp. 7,9-9,1 x 5-6,5 .............................................................. S. sphaerophila
2a. On Endocronartium harknessii, asci 2-4-spored,
sp. 3,5-8,0 x 2,9-6,5 ............................................................ S. gallicola
2b. On ?Seimatosporium, asci 2-spored,
sp. (7,7-)8,0-9,6(-13,8) x (8,1-)8,5-9,8(-13,2) ................... S.coronata
3. Neck with basket-like structure .................................................................. 4
3a. Not with above character ......................................................................... 5
4. Neck 1800-2500 um long .................................................... S. musciformis
4a. Neck < 1000 um long ................................................................. S. barbata
5. Sp. 7-11 x 5-8 x 4-7,5 (-8), without stroma................................ S. caulincola
5a. Sp (4,5)-5-6(-8) x 3,8-5,8, with small stroma................................. S. solani
1. Fungicole, asci 2-4 spored ......................................................................... 2
1a. On other substrates, asci 8-spored .......................................................... 3
2. On Apiosporina morbosa, asci 2-spored
sp. 7,9-9,1 x 5-6,5 .............................................................. S. sphaerophila
2a. On Endocronartium harknessii, asci 2-4-spored,
sp. 3,5-8,0 x 2,9-6,5 ............................................................ S. gallicola
2b. On ?Seimatosporium, asci 2-spored,
sp. (7,7-)8,0-9,6(-13,8) x (8,1-)8,5-9,8(-13,2) ................... S.coronata
3. Neck with basket-like structure .................................................................. 4
3a. Not with above character ......................................................................... 5
4. Neck 1800-2500 um long .................................................... S. musciformis
4a. Neck < 1000 um long ................................................................. S. barbata
5. Sp. 7-11 x 5-8 x 4-7,5 (-8), without stroma................................ S. caulincola
5a. Sp (4,5)-5-6(-8) x 3,8-5,8, with small stroma................................. S. solani
Peter Welt,
13-06-2009 17:10
Re:Scopinella solani ?
Thanks Perz,
Now you just have to know what the structure (basket-like structure) is meant. How big are the spores of S. barbata and S. musciformis? Otherwise, it would indeed fit well to S. solani.
Now you just have to know what the structure (basket-like structure) is meant. How big are the spores of S. barbata and S. musciformis? Otherwise, it would indeed fit well to S. solani.
Perz Piotr,
13-06-2009 17:21
Perz Piotr,
13-06-2009 17:25
Re:Scopinella solani ?
Hallo Peter,
Ich meine, das "basket-like" Strukture ist ein Verdickung, wo befinden sich die Sporen. So was gibt es bei S.solani nicht - die hat nur ganz kurze Haaren - das ist ganz gut auf Deine Mikros zu sehen.
Ich denke auch, dass Dein Fund eine S.solani ist - was was das Substrat ?
beste Gruesse
Pimpek
Ich meine, das "basket-like" Strukture ist ein Verdickung, wo befinden sich die Sporen. So was gibt es bei S.solani nicht - die hat nur ganz kurze Haaren - das ist ganz gut auf Deine Mikros zu sehen.
Ich denke auch, dass Dein Fund eine S.solani ist - was was das Substrat ?
beste Gruesse
Pimpek
Peter Welt,
13-06-2009 17:34
Re:Scopinella solani ?
Du hast recht, den Artikel wo du die Tafel her hast kenne ich. Mycologia, 98(5), 2006: 815-820
Beim Substrat bin ich mir nicht sicher, könnete Lupine sein. Das kläre ich noch.
Gruß und Danke Peter
Beim Substrat bin ich mir nicht sicher, könnete Lupine sein. Das kläre ich noch.
Gruß und Danke Peter
David Malloch,
23-06-2009 17:56
Re:Scopinella solani ?
Dear Piotr and Peter,
I am in the field collecting fungi and have rather limited internet connections. I apologize for not answering your messages. It looks as though you have the Scopinella issues well in hand.
I have found some nice S. sphaerophila collections in the last week and I thought you might enjoy seeing pictures of them. The first shows ascostromata of Apiosporina morbosa, covered with S. sphaerophila (but you cant't see them here). A second picture shows the perithecia and asci.
Dave
I am in the field collecting fungi and have rather limited internet connections. I apologize for not answering your messages. It looks as though you have the Scopinella issues well in hand.
I have found some nice S. sphaerophila collections in the last week and I thought you might enjoy seeing pictures of them. The first shows ascostromata of Apiosporina morbosa, covered with S. sphaerophila (but you cant't see them here). A second picture shows the perithecia and asci.
Dave





