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Phaeosphaeria again...fuckelii?
Björn Wergen,
19-04-2011 21:05
Hi,just a short question: Is this Phaeosphaeria fuckelii? The only problem is the spore size quiet different from Ellis&Ellis (1998): "20-30x4-5µm". I found it on Phragmites australis (i think it IS P. australis, it is definitely a grass).
thanks and regards,
kazuya
Björn Wergen,
19-04-2011 21:06
Re:Phaeosphaeria again...fuckelii?
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Alain GARDIENNET,
20-04-2011 00:54
Re:Phaeosphaeria again...fuckelii?
Hi Kazama,
Yes it's a very strange and interesting recolt. Ascospores are exactly the extending copy os fuckelii's ones. No species fits well.
Have you seen a sheath around ascospores ?
Alain
Yes it's a very strange and interesting recolt. Ascospores are exactly the extending copy os fuckelii's ones. No species fits well.
Have you seen a sheath around ascospores ?
Alain
Alain GARDIENNET,
20-04-2011 01:09
Re:Phaeosphaeria again...fuckelii?
Perhaps see towards P. punctillum-caricis...
Björn Wergen,
20-04-2011 08:30
Re:Phaeosphaeria again...fuckelii?
Hi Alain,
no, i did not see a sheath, but they are of course a "copy" of P. fuckelii's spores...and 34-41 µm long, growing on Phragmites. My literature is not sufficient to determine these species, I just collected all of your data about Phaeosphaeria, but there is no "P. puncillum-caricis". I need a key for Phaeosphaeria or some literature about...
And I am very interested in finding out which species this is...always!
regards,
Kazuya
no, i did not see a sheath, but they are of course a "copy" of P. fuckelii's spores...and 34-41 µm long, growing on Phragmites. My literature is not sufficient to determine these species, I just collected all of your data about Phaeosphaeria, but there is no "P. puncillum-caricis". I need a key for Phaeosphaeria or some literature about...
And I am very interested in finding out which species this is...always!
regards,
Kazuya
Björn Wergen,
20-04-2011 10:25
Re:Phaeosphaeria again...fuckelii?
I looked for something on the net and found data about a "Phaeosphaeria caricis", which has spores about 25-30x4-5 µm (Ellis&Ellis) but (32-)34-39(-46) x 4-6 µm on "fungi.life.illinois.edu" which fits well to my recolt.
Alain GARDIENNET,
20-04-2011 11:22
Re:Phaeosphaeria again...fuckelii?
I will send you docs today (perhaps tonight).
Size fits well for caricis, but you'll see that the form doesn't fit very well. See my fiche in database.
Perhaps punctillum would be better but some authors give them synonyme... I will research.
Alain
Size fits well for caricis, but you'll see that the form doesn't fit very well. See my fiche in database.
Perhaps punctillum would be better but some authors give them synonyme... I will research.
Alain
Gernot Friebes,
20-04-2011 11:54
Re:Phaeosphaeria again...fuckelii?
could you please send me these docs too?
Thank you!
Gernot
Thank you!
Gernot
Björn Wergen,
20-04-2011 13:28
Re:Phaeosphaeria again...fuckelii?
Many thanks Alain ;)
regards,
Kazuya
regards,
Kazuya
Karl Keck,
21-04-2011 20:25
Re:Phaeosphaeria again...fuckelii?
Cher Alain,
I am interested in the docs too!
Cordialment, Karl
I am interested in the docs too!
Cordialment, Karl