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24-05-2011 23:04

erio camporesi erio camporesi

Hi all I have a question: is the following a

24-05-2011 10:30

Enrique Rubio Enrique Rubio

Dear friends: Last week I have collected this nic

23-05-2011 00:02

Alain GARDIENNET Alain GARDIENNET

Bonsoir, Nous observons dans le Nord-Est de la Fr

22-05-2011 18:54

Javier Ormad

Os presento una especie. Inicialmente enclavada co

22-05-2011 11:29

Enrique Rubio Enrique Rubio

Dear friends: These small (up to 0.7 mm), black,

21-05-2011 09:22

Alain Delannoy

Bonjour à tous, Je soumets ici une récolte su

21-05-2011 00:55

Javier Ormad

Hola! Some small ascomycetes generally white, whi

19-05-2011 20:13

Björn Nordén

I have this nice pyrenomycete with aggregted black

18-05-2011 19:55

Miguel Ãngel Ribes Miguel Ángel Ribes

Good evening I have this small (0.4-0.9 mm) "as

17-05-2011 23:01

Marja Pennanen

Hello, I found these blaskish fungi on Rubus id

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Octospora
Salvador Tello, 24-11-2012 14:50
Mide unos 2mm y estaba en restos de una antigua hoguera. 
Ascas no amiloides y esporas con estas medidas.
21,7 [23,6 ; 24,7] 26,6 x 11,1 [11,6 ; 11,9] 12,4 µm
Q = 1,9 [2 ; 2,1] 2,2 ; N = 21 ; C = 95%
Me = 24,1 x 11,8 µm ; Qe = 2,1
Yo pienso que puede ser Octospora convexula, pero me quedan dudas, por que en alguna descripción que he leído dice que las paráfisis se colorean de verde con el iki y en otras no mencionan esto, la de mi recolecta no le veo que tome ese color, o por lo menos no es muy intenso.
¿Estoy en lo cierto con mi identificación? 
Gracias.

Saludos.
Salvador.
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Uwe Lindemann, 24-11-2012 15:19
Uwe Lindemann
Re : Octospora
Hi Slavador,
in my opion your finding looks quite similar to the species of the Leucoscypha-semiimmersa-patavina-complex. Do you find some thickwalled hairs on the outside of the apothezium?
Best, Uwe
Björn Wergen, 24-11-2012 16:14
Björn Wergen
Re : Octospora
This should be Sepultariella semi-immersa.

regards, björn
Uwe Lindemann, 24-11-2012 18:11
Uwe Lindemann
Re : Octospora
Hi Björn,
Sepultariella semi-immersa is according to Index Fungorum an invalid name, although it is the current name of the taxon. Very strange. Maybe somebody can explain this strange case?
Best, Uwe
François Valade, 24-11-2012 18:14
François Valade
Re : Octospora
this combination has not been validly published http://www.indexfungorum.org/names/NamesRecord.asp?RecordID=466141?
so I call it Leucoscypha semi-immersa
Salvador Tello, 24-11-2012 21:01
Re : Octospora
No he visto pelos en el esterior del apotecio, (probaré otra vez).
Pero ¿no son demasiado grandes las esporas para ser  Leucoscypha semi-immersa?

Saludos.
Salvador.
DirkW, 25-11-2012 12:38
DirkW
Re : Octospora
hi together,

i agree with francois!
to me it seems completely absurd to split l. semi-immersa and l. patavina in differnet genera, because they are so close ...
so it stays a leucoscypha for me.

best

dirk
Uwe Lindemann, 25-11-2012 14:17
Uwe Lindemann
Re : Octospora
According to René Dougoud the sporesize of L. patavina is 20,6-25,6 x 10-11,5 µm and of semi-immersa (18,5-)20,5-22,5(-23,5) x (9,6-)10,5-11,2 µm. It overlaps such a lot that I can't see in sporesize the main feature to split the taxa. It may be two different taxa, but I find it hard to distinguish between them.
Best, Uwe
François Valade, 25-11-2012 16:07
François Valade
Re : Octospora
Uwe I disagree. I collected both and color of apothecia are really different: bright orange for patavina, yellow ochraceous for semiimmersa
Uwe Lindemann, 25-11-2012 16:39
Uwe Lindemann
Re : Octospora
Hi François,
thank you very much for your comment!
Here I have a Leucoscypha-"patavina"-Collection which is (in my opion) not bright orange.
Sporesize: 25-26,5 x 11-12 µm.
And here is another collection, one of Leucoscypha-"semi-immersa", with orange colors.
Sporesize: 21-22 x 9-11 µm.
What do you think about it?
Best, Uwe



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Salvador Tello, 25-11-2012 22:25
Re : Octospora
La he estado mirando otra vez y parece que si va a ser L. patavina.
Gracias.

Saludos.
Salvador.