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Rubén Martínez-Gil,
28-12-2013 01:00
Hola a todos.Pongo unas fotos de este asco que encontré sobre madera, creemos de Juniperus communis.
Miden hasta 5 mm de diámetro y tienen un pseudopie de 1 mm.
Esporas de 15-21 x 4-5,5 micras con 1 septo central trasversal.ç
Excípulo ectal no lo había visto nunca, es nuevo para mí.
Gracias por su ayuda
Un saludo
Rubén
Stip Helleman,
28-12-2013 01:25
Re : Hymenoscyphus?
Hi Ruben,
the apical pore shape is no hymenoscyphus but Calycina type, your species resemble highly to Bisporella (with gelatinized excipulum) B. citrina the most but your sporemeasurements do not fit. So I would say perhaps a undescribed or for me unknown species of Bisporella
cheers,
Stip
the apical pore shape is no hymenoscyphus but Calycina type, your species resemble highly to Bisporella (with gelatinized excipulum) B. citrina the most but your sporemeasurements do not fit. So I would say perhaps a undescribed or for me unknown species of Bisporella
cheers,
Stip
Michel Hairaud,
28-12-2013 01:34
Re : Hymenoscyphus?
Hi Ruben, Stip, and everyone,
I agree, Stip. Then, how about B. (Calycina) confluens ? The spore size would fit better.
Amitiés
Michel
I agree, Stip. Then, how about B. (Calycina) confluens ? The spore size would fit better.
Amitiés
Michel
Hans-Otto Baral,
28-12-2013 10:21
Re : Hymenoscyphus?
yes, undoubtedly confluens.
Stip Helleman,
28-12-2013 17:08
Re : Hymenoscyphus?
Thanks, I did not meet confluens yet.
Stip
Stip
Hans-Otto Baral,
28-12-2013 17:10
Re : Hymenoscyphus?
confluens is a species that is gradually linked with citrina, not clear cut in every case. Perhaps therefore the name confluens ;-)
Rubén Martínez-Gil,
28-12-2013 18:45
Re : Hymenoscyphus?
Hola Stip, Michel, Zotto y a todos.
Gracias por vuestras respuestas, yo no conocía la existencia de B. confluens.
Un saludo
Rubén
Gracias por vuestras respuestas, yo no conocía la existencia de B. confluens.
Un saludo
Rubén
Guy Garcia,
29-12-2013 21:05
Re : Hymenoscyphus?
Hi Zotto and all,
I don't have the paper with me to certify, but when Korf & Bujakiewicz* have proposed the new combination Bisporella confluens, this species is described without croziers !
Best, Guy
* KORF R.P. & BUJAKIEWICZ A. 1985 On three autumnal species of Bisporella (Discomycetes) in New York. Agarica 6 (12) : 302-311.
I don't have the paper with me to certify, but when Korf & Bujakiewicz* have proposed the new combination Bisporella confluens, this species is described without croziers !
Best, Guy
* KORF R.P. & BUJAKIEWICZ A. 1985 On three autumnal species of Bisporella (Discomycetes) in New York. Agarica 6 (12) : 302-311.
Michel Hairaud,
29-12-2013 21:21
Re : Hymenoscyphus?
Bonsoir,
C'est vrai, Guy, il écrit : '' croziers not seen''
Michel
C'est vrai, Guy, il écrit : '' croziers not seen''
Michel
Hans-Otto Baral,
29-12-2013 22:20
Re : Hymenoscyphus?
Yes, it is true, and the spore size is smaller. But the asci are not figured. In that paper only N-American specimens are cited. So this species needs reinvestigation, also for the apical ring type ("very slightly blue in MLZ, enhanced by KOH").
Paper here attached
Zotto
Paper here attached
Zotto
Korf-amp-Bujakiewicz-3-Bisporella-in-NY-1985-Agarica6-12-0001.pdf