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Lothar Krieglsteiner Lothar Krieglsteiner

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Tony Moverley

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.. Algarve, same leaf than the last post. The con

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Podospora posible en Oveja
Blasco Rafael, 13-01-2015 16:33
Blasco RafaelHola, tengo estas muestras sobre excremento de Oveja, lo mas cercano que encuentro es Podospora vesticola y Podospora tetraspora, pero sin ninguna seguridad, a ver que opinan.
0,27 diametro X 0,48 altura.
Ascas J- , Crozier + , 170 x 18---175 x 17---217 x 17.
Esporas con dos apendices gelatinosos de 17--19 x 11--12.
Parafisis no vistas.
pared de subglobosa a prismatica.
Pelos pared peritecio hialinos de 50--85 x 9--10.
Pelos apice peritecio 10--20--25 X 8--10.
Un saludo
Rafael
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Blasco Rafael, 13-01-2015 16:35
Blasco Rafael
Re : Podospora posible en Oveja
MAS MICRO
RAFAEL
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Norbert Heine, 13-01-2015 16:56
Norbert Heine
Re : Podospora posible en Oveja
Hola Rafael,

you are right with the species, but the correct name should be Schizothecium vesticola (Berk. & Broome) N. Lundq.

Regards
Norbert
Michel Delpont, 13-01-2015 17:03
Michel Delpont
Re : Podospora posible en Oveja
Sans problème, Schizothecium vesticola !

Michel.
Chris Yeates, 13-01-2015 18:38
Chris Yeates
Re : Podospora posible en Oveja
#Norbert
is it not better to say 'in my opinion the "preferred" name should be . . .' ?

Both Podospora vesticola (Berk. & Broome) Mirza & Cain ex Kobayasi and Schizothecium vesticola (Berk. & Broome) N. Lundq. are legitimate and therefore correct names (indeed Mycobank, I see, treats the former as its "Current Name"). I mean this as a general comment; I appreciate that in the particular case of Schizothecium v. Podospora
there are arguments on both sides.

Just a thought.
LG
Chris
Blasco Rafael, 13-01-2015 20:28
Blasco Rafael
Re : Podospora posible en Oveja
Gracias Norbert y Michel.
Un saludo
Rafael
Peter Welt, 13-01-2015 21:13
Peter Welt
Re : Podospora posible en Oveja
This is not right, Chris. Lundqvist has the genera already separated macroscopically and
also the genetic tests have confirmed this. see PDF

If youstudy this work is probably not uniform rather Podospora.


Also Doveri that has yet preferred Podospora, now used Schizothecium.


Peter

Chris Yeates, 13-01-2015 21:57
Chris Yeates
Re : Podospora posible en Oveja
Hello Peter
I probably haven't made myself clear; I quite agree that the name to use for this fungus, based on current taxonomic arguments is Schizothecium.

I just query the use of the word 'correct'; as placement above the level of species will always be to a greater or lesser degree a matter of opinion. One only has to look at the various generic names used for many members of the Helotiales - I can think of a number of species where I don't agree with the generic placement currently used, and therefore I don't think it will prove to be the 'correct' one; but one has to use the published name currently in use, unless one wants to go to all the work of researching types etc. and publishing a new combination.

There are several legitimate names for Schizothecium vesticola, including combinations in Sordaria and Hypocopra, combinations which were probably deemed 'correct' at the stage of knowledge at the time. 'Correct' implies a level of finality which we can aspire to in mycology but will probably never achieve in many cases; perhaps 'current name' is a safer bet.

Does that make sense?
Best wishes
Chris
Norbert Heine, 14-01-2015 00:50
Norbert Heine
Re : Podospora posible en Oveja
Hello Chris,

I agree in all things with you!
Yor are right:
"Correct' implies a level of finality which we can aspire to in mycology but will probably never achieve in many cases; perhaps 'current name' is a safer bet."

But I'm not perfect in english, you know, and I think there is a difference between "the correct name should be Schizothecium vesticola (Berk. & Broome) N. Lundq.", what I said and "the correct name is...", what I would never say! You know?

Regards and thanks for your interesting remarks!

Norbert