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19-09-2018 15:30

Nicolas VAN VOOREN Nicolas VAN VOOREN

Bonjour.Je cherche une version digitale de ce docu

23-09-2018 14:10

Rubén Martínez Gil Rubén Martínez Gil

Hola a todos. Subo unas fotos de una Peziza que e

23-09-2018 13:36

Rubén Martínez Gil Rubén Martínez Gil

Hola a todos. Subo unas fotos de una Peziza que e

23-09-2018 05:26

xian zhang xian zhang

Hello everyone, Is this specimen Pachyella clypen

21-09-2018 11:57

Vasileios Kaounas Vasileios Kaounas

At the moment I do not have enough data.Just a fri

23-09-2018 22:21

Marc Detollenaere Marc Detollenaere

Good evening, On dead leaves of Ammophila I found

18-09-2018 14:10

Savic Dragisa

Is this Pachyella punctispora? I found it on a dam

24-09-2018 19:12

Castillo Joseba Castillo Joseba

Localizado ayer  en restos de madera de haya quem

21-09-2018 23:44

Edouard Evangelisti Edouard Evangelisti

Bonjour le forum, Pourriez-vous m'aider à confir

13-09-2018 19:17

Marc Detollenaere Marc Detollenaere

Dear forum, Yesterday I found setous fruit bodies

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Could this be Cheilymenia granulata var. elaphorum?
Jan Knuiman, 01-07-2018 16:33
Hello,

These discs (max.diameter 1 mm) were found on excrements of Galloway cattle. No hairs on margin or flanks. Spores showed no ornamentation in cotton blue / lactic acid. Free spores mounted in tap water measured 15.0-18.0 x 7.4-8.9 µm. Paraphyses with yellow guttuli and maximum width at the top of 5 µm. Textura of the excipulum consisting of large more or less globose to angular cells. 

Could this be Cheilymenia granulata var. elaphorum?

Jan
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Jan Knuiman, 02-07-2018 12:41
Re : Could this be Cheilymenia granulata var. elaphorum?
Herweith I add an extra picture showing some linear striation on the spores.

Jan
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Peter Püwert, 02-07-2018 14:10
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Re : Could this be Cheilymenia granulata var. elaphorum?
Hi Jan,

in my opinion the paraphyses for Ch. elaphorum are too slim. I think, one can look at Ch. theleboloides. At some collections of Cheilymenia the hairs are very difficult to find.

Greetings Peter.
Jan Knuiman, 02-07-2018 17:22
Re : Could this be Cheilymenia granulata var. elaphorum?
Hello Peter, 

Thanks for your reply! I made five extra preparations and found four hairs in total! Very difficult to find indeed! The hairs varied in length between 65 and 305 µm. 

Does this confirm C. theleboloides?

Jan
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Peter Püwert, 04-07-2018 09:36
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Re : Could this be Cheilymenia granulata var. elaphorum?
Hi Jan,

after hairs of Cheilymenia don't look in my opinion. Do you have the world monograph of MORAVEC (2005) about this genus ?

Greetings Peter.
Jan Knuiman, 04-07-2018 11:15
Re : Could this be Cheilymenia granulata var. elaphorum?
Hello Peter,

Unfortunately, I don't have the 2005 monograph, but do have access to the Mycotaxon 38, 1990 paper of Moravec. In that paper Moravec describes the hairs of C. theleboloides as: "although the latter possesses not only hyaline hyphoid hairs with a bulbous base, but also yellowish acuminate hairs with "germs" of roots. The latter consist usually of a bifurcate base of bulbous "primitive germs of roots". However, apothecia of many collections of C. theleboloides possess only hyphoid hairs and lack the acuminate yellowish hairs, or these hairs occur very rarely."

I've have searched the material once more and found two hairs of about 60 µm and similar to the ones already found, and one longer hairlike structure of about 300 µm (see pictures).

I agree with you that the illustrations on p. 463 of Moravec's paper suggest that the hairs should be septate and have a furcate base. These aspects are not visible in the hairs I've found. Could it be that the hairs do not belong to the specimen found? Or are there other options for the combination of characteristics of this specimen?

Kind regards,
Jan

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Peter Püwert, 04-07-2018 12:03
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Re : Could this be Cheilymenia granulata var. elaphorum?
Hi Jan,
the hair do not belong in my opinion to the mushroom, likely of vegetable origin.

I try to send you the monograph.

Greetings Peter.
Jan Knuiman, 04-07-2018 12:39
Re : Could this be Cheilymenia granulata var. elaphorum?
Hi Peter,

It would be fine, if you could send me the monograph! So, you still think C. theleboloides is the best option for this mushroom?

Kind regards,
Jan