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18-08-2019 01:12

Andreas Gminder Andreas Gminder

Bonjour,although there are already several threads

12-08-2019 11:34

Stefan Jakobsson

Hi, yesterday I found something Mollisia-like on

17-08-2019 01:16

Stefan Jakobsson

Hello, Once again something Orbilia-like. This ti

16-08-2019 16:19

Joop van der Lee

I am looking for the following documentation:LUCK-

14-08-2019 09:30

Johan Myhrer

Collection from central Sweden 2019-08-12, light b

13-08-2019 08:35

BERNARD CLESSE BERNARD CLESSE

Bonjour à toutes et tous,J'ai trouvé récemment

13-08-2019 14:28

Josep Torres Josep Torres

Hola.Una roña fotografiada el pasado 5 de Mayo en

13-08-2019 20:56

Enrique Rubio Enrique Rubio

Hi friendsThese spherical or pyriform blackish per

09-08-2019 21:44

BERNARD CLESSE BERNARD CLESSE

Bonsoir à toutes et à tous,Voici un truc super

07-08-2019 12:40

Viktorie Halasu Viktorie Halasu

Hello forum,this orange Orbilia was growing on dec

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Monilinia on Prunus padus
Johan Myhrer, 14-08-2019 09:30
Collection from central Sweden 2019-08-12, light brown discs araising from blackishbrown mycelium covering the stones from Prunus padus fruits laying on the ground. Spores 6-8x3,5-4µm.

My first thought was Monilinia padi but thats a species of spring with larger spores? Could it be M. fructicola?
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Hans-Otto Baral, 14-08-2019 10:35
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Monilinia on Prunus padus
the paraphyses contain very refractive VB-guttules which are unknown in Monilinia. Could you please check the iodine reaction and photograph the apical ring if present? I think the spores are uninucleate.

My guess is that it is a Hymenoscyphus.
Johan Myhrer, 14-08-2019 13:21
Re : Monilinia on Prunus padus
Some more pictures. Asci with Lugols solution, spores with pushed contrast.
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Hans-Otto Baral, 14-08-2019 13:54
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Re : Monilinia on Prunus padus
Yes, clearly Hymenoscyphus-type and spores uninucleate.

Further necessary data include asus base (croziers) and excipulum structure (prismatica?).

I know a Hymenoscyphus species on Cornus seeds, but remember narrower spores for that.
Johan Myhrer, 14-08-2019 14:34
Re : Monilinia on Prunus padus
Ascus on croziers. Excipulum textura prismatica indeed, sometimes almost globulosa. Habitus is not much like Monilinia at all when I compare pictures...
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Hans-Otto Baral, 14-08-2019 21:09
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Re : Monilinia on Prunus padus
Clearly with croziers. 

I find noting in my database on seeds/fruits of Prunus that might fit. Ciboria aestivalis is the only one, but it is sclerotiniaceous, obviously, when checking data in GenBank.

But I remembered wrong: The Hymenoscyphus on Cornus seeds fits yours in spore size (6-10 x 3-4). I have it as H. corni-maris in my folder Hymenosc Cudoniella. In another folder ("cornicola Asia") is a similar species differing in being without croziers. This folder contains also "Lanzia" glandicola, which might be the same.

Could it be that your seeds belong to Cornus rather than Prunus? - No, sorry, I did not remember your clear photo. We actually have a sequence of the Cornus fungus (ITS), so a comparison with yours would be interesting.

I compared this aggregate also with Gloeotinia and Symphyosirinia, and the latter was suggested to me also by Peter Püwert regarding your sample.

Zotto



Johan Myhrer, 15-08-2019 07:15
Re : Monilinia on Prunus padus
Corni-maris looks very similar! I'm 100% sure about the substrate, a HUGE Prunus padus :-)

Anyone working with these? I would be happy to send a sample for sequencing.

/Johan
Hans-Otto Baral, 15-08-2019 08:47
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Monilinia on Prunus padus
At some time I intend to clarify this Cornus fungus, but at the moment it is impossible. Various people have the opportunity to do such molecular work, but it is a bit of inflationary today, how many species and samples need sequencing. Important is to keep the dried sample.
Johan Myhrer, 15-08-2019 09:43
Re : Monilinia on Prunus padus
Dried sample will be deposited in Herbarium UPS for future studies :-)

Thank you Zotto!