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12-06-2026 14:50

François Freléchoux François Freléchoux

Bonjour, Voici la brève description d'une Mollis

10-06-2026 21:16

François Freléchoux François Freléchoux

Bonsoir,Le dernier du jour, en attendant votre avi

11-06-2026 16:24

Ethan Crenson

Hi all, Recently, a friend found this Orbilia in

11-06-2026 19:01

William Slosse William Slosse

Hello all,In an attempt to make a culture of a sus

11-06-2026 19:03

Nicolas VAN VOOREN Nicolas VAN VOOREN

Chers membres d'Ascofrance,Le site sera placé en

10-06-2026 23:08

éric ROMERO éric ROMERO

Bonjour tous, Je vous propose un Mollisia trouvé

09-06-2026 18:32

Camille Mertens

Sur morceau de roseau immergé 0,5 - 0,7 mm de dia

10-06-2026 12:54

Steve Clements

Bonjour encore, Pouvez-vous m'aider, s'il vous pl

10-06-2026 21:07

François Freléchoux François Freléchoux

Toutes les tiges de gentianes jaunes de l'an passÃ

10-06-2026 13:41

François Freléchoux François Freléchoux

Bonjour à nouveau, Voici une trouvaille d'hier.

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Karstenia chrysophaea? - from Portugal
Lothar Krieglsteiner, 29-04-2026 08:01
Lothar Krieglsteiner... on twig attached to small tree of Citrus aurantius, together with Clonostachys ralfsii (det. A. Gardienet). 
As the few apothecia (only seen after water-addition) were growing in an algal mat they could well be lichenised (without having evidence for this).
I think it must be a Karstenia and I do not find a better species than chrysophaea.
The spores have up to 11 septa and are about 40-55/3,5-4,5 µm large, with both ends pointed.
Who can help?
Best regards, Lothar
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Hans-Otto Baral, 29-04-2026 08:38
Re : Karstenia chrysophaea? - from Portugal
This may well be a Karstenia, but I would like to see the periphysoids on the inner margin. The apos are small, but only  a median section would show them. Examples of sections with periphysoids are many in my Karstenia folder.
Zdenek Palice, 29-04-2026 09:11
Zdenek Palice
Re : Karstenia chrysophaea? - from Portugal
The ascospores appear distinctly halonate on some photos - this could be what lichenologists used to call Ramonia subsphaeroides (Tav.) Vezda which should have spore sizes of more or less of the same size as Karstenia chrysophaea auct.

see e.g. the photo of the species in the paper by Frisch et al. 2020

Lothar Krieglsteiner, 29-04-2026 10:06
Lothar Krieglsteiner
Re : Karstenia chrysophaea? - from Portugal
Hello Zotto,
thanks for your reply. I will not be easy to do this with the ramaining material but I will try.
The link to your site does not work any more at my laptop. Could you once again send the (new?) link?
Lothar
Lothar Krieglsteiner, 29-04-2026 10:07
Lothar Krieglsteiner
Re : Karstenia chrysophaea? - from Portugal
Hello Zdenek,
thank you very much for your proposal  that looks very good- I will try to compare more exactly. The "halo" of the spores was also noted by me. 
Best regards, Lothar
Hans-Otto Baral, 29-04-2026 10:42
Re : Karstenia chrysophaea? - from Portugal
I now think I see a thallus around the apos. 

My website is still out of order. Here is the link to the ascos:

Lothar Krieglsteiner, 29-04-2026 10:47
Lothar Krieglsteiner
Re : Karstenia chrysophaea? - from Portugal
thank you, Zotto