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Gernot Friebes,
27-10-2009 22:40
I'd need your help with this anamorph. I found it on old leaves of an unknown little plant and it has very striking, brown, 3-septate conidia (up to 17 x 3 µm) with long appendages (up to 10 µm). I think I have seen this species some time ago but I can't remember a name.
Best wishes,
Gernot
Gernot Friebes,
27-10-2009 22:41
Re:anamorph
conidia
Hermine Lotz-Winter,
27-10-2009 23:37
Re:anamorph
Hi Gernot,
to me it resembles the anamorph of Heterosphaeria patella (Heteropatella-state).
Regards
Hermine
to me it resembles the anamorph of Heterosphaeria patella (Heteropatella-state).
Regards
Hermine
Gernot Friebes,
28-10-2009 07:10
Re:anamorph
Hi Hermine,
thanks for you response! So you mean Heteropatella bonordenii? Unfortunately I can't find proper informations about this fungus, maybe you have a description of it?
Best wishes,
Gernot
thanks for you response! So you mean Heteropatella bonordenii? Unfortunately I can't find proper informations about this fungus, maybe you have a description of it?
Best wishes,
Gernot
Hermine Lotz-Winter,
28-10-2009 10:13
Re:anamorph
Hi Gernot,
I have once found it myself on Angelica sylvestris, but I have no photo. I remember, that the conidia were app. 30 µm including the appendages. I looked it up in Ellis & Ellis, picture 1350. There is also a description in Rehm, the Rabenhorst Flora, p. 199, which you know you can find in cyberliber http://www.cybertruffle.org.uk/cyberliber/index.htm. The original pictures of Tulasne are on Gallica, http://gallica.bnf.fr/, Tulasne, Selecta Fungorum Carpologia Table XVIII, but they are badly scanned. Send me a mail if you want a scan of something :-)
Regards Hermine
P.S.: Hast Du das auch in Kaisers Jagdgebiet gefunden? :-)
I have once found it myself on Angelica sylvestris, but I have no photo. I remember, that the conidia were app. 30 µm including the appendages. I looked it up in Ellis & Ellis, picture 1350. There is also a description in Rehm, the Rabenhorst Flora, p. 199, which you know you can find in cyberliber http://www.cybertruffle.org.uk/cyberliber/index.htm. The original pictures of Tulasne are on Gallica, http://gallica.bnf.fr/, Tulasne, Selecta Fungorum Carpologia Table XVIII, but they are badly scanned. Send me a mail if you want a scan of something :-)
Regards Hermine
P.S.: Hast Du das auch in Kaisers Jagdgebiet gefunden? :-)
Martin Bemmann,
28-10-2009 12:58
Re:anamorph
Hi Gernot,
the current name is Heterosphaeria patella (Tode) Grev.. You will find Saccardo's Latin diagnosis of this fungus in the Index fungorum:
http://www.indexfungorum.org/Names/NamesRecord.asp?RecordID=186470
Just click on "Page Image in Published List".
Cheers,
Martin
the current name is Heterosphaeria patella (Tode) Grev.. You will find Saccardo's Latin diagnosis of this fungus in the Index fungorum:
http://www.indexfungorum.org/Names/NamesRecord.asp?RecordID=186470
Just click on "Page Image in Published List".
Cheers,
Martin
NC NC,
28-10-2009 16:09
Re:anamorph
Hi,
@Hermine: unfortunately both in Ellis & Ellis and in Rehm the appendages are too short. Did your find fit with my collection? Maybe the length of the appendages is quite variable. Other than that, I found my fungus on old leaves and not on an Umbelliferae.
Und ja, auch der Fund ist aus dem Jagdgebiet :)
@Martin: Saccardo's diagnosis seems to refer to the teleomorph but I am looking for descriptions of the anamorph. Heteropatella is, as far as I can see it, mentioned at the end but without description.
Best wishes,
Gernot
@Hermine: unfortunately both in Ellis & Ellis and in Rehm the appendages are too short. Did your find fit with my collection? Maybe the length of the appendages is quite variable. Other than that, I found my fungus on old leaves and not on an Umbelliferae.
Und ja, auch der Fund ist aus dem Jagdgebiet :)
@Martin: Saccardo's diagnosis seems to refer to the teleomorph but I am looking for descriptions of the anamorph. Heteropatella is, as far as I can see it, mentioned at the end but without description.
Best wishes,
Gernot
Gernot Friebes,
28-10-2009 16:09
Re:anamorph
Hi,
@Hermine: unfortunately both in Ellis & Ellis and in Rehm the appendages are too short. Did your find fit with my collection? Maybe the length of the appendages is quite variable. Other than that, I found my fungus on old leaves and not on an Umbelliferae.
Und ja, auch der Fund ist aus dem Jagdgebiet :)
@Martin: Saccardo's diagnosis seems to refer to the teleomorph but I am looking for descriptions of the anamorph. Heteropatella is, as far as I can see it, mentioned at the end but without description.
Best wishes,
Gernot
@Hermine: unfortunately both in Ellis & Ellis and in Rehm the appendages are too short. Did your find fit with my collection? Maybe the length of the appendages is quite variable. Other than that, I found my fungus on old leaves and not on an Umbelliferae.
Und ja, auch der Fund ist aus dem Jagdgebiet :)
@Martin: Saccardo's diagnosis seems to refer to the teleomorph but I am looking for descriptions of the anamorph. Heteropatella is, as far as I can see it, mentioned at the end but without description.
Best wishes,
Gernot
Gernot Friebes,
28-10-2009 17:17
Re:anamorph
Hi again,
due to Martin's help I think I found a fitting species: Discosia artocreas. Here is a very good description: http://www.mycobank.org/MycoTaxo.aspx?Link=T&Rec=180638
I am very grateful to both of you! ;)
Best wishes,
Gernot
due to Martin's help I think I found a fitting species: Discosia artocreas. Here is a very good description: http://www.mycobank.org/MycoTaxo.aspx?Link=T&Rec=180638
I am very grateful to both of you! ;)
Best wishes,
Gernot
Hermine Lotz-Winter,
28-10-2009 19:16
Re:anamorph
Gernot,
as I realised today - very nice coincidence - Discosia artocreas was found in the Botanical Garden in Frankfurt in July on dead leaves of Fagus sylvatica. I can send you something to compare, if you want.
Regards Hermine
as I realised today - very nice coincidence - Discosia artocreas was found in the Botanical Garden in Frankfurt in July on dead leaves of Fagus sylvatica. I can send you something to compare, if you want.
Regards Hermine
Martin Bemmann,
28-10-2009 21:47
Re:anamorph
Hi Gernot,
this meets it very well, I think! Good point to start! (if not to succeed ;-) )
Cheers,
Martin
this meets it very well, I think! Good point to start! (if not to succeed ;-) )
Cheers,
Martin