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Hyaloscyphaceae on Rubus canes
Enrique Rubio,
20-07-2010 14:30
Hi to all:I need your help about this small (up to 0.25 mm), white, sessile, cupulate, densely gregarious and hairy ascomata that grows with no subiculum on Rubus fruticosus canes.
Enrique Rubio,
20-07-2010 14:31
Re:Hyaloscyphaceae on Rubus canes
Spores
Enrique Rubio,
20-07-2010 14:33
Re:Hyaloscyphaceae on Rubus canes
Asci 8-spored, without basal vesicle, croziers (-), IKI b. Paraphyses filiform, not lanceolate.
Enrique Rubio,
20-07-2010 14:35
Re:Hyaloscyphaceae on Rubus canes
Hairs septate, apex acute or obtuse, not granulate, not basally inflated, very difficult to dissociate
Enrique Rubio,
20-07-2010 14:37
Re:Hyaloscyphaceae on Rubus canes
Ectal excipulum prismatica.
I don't know the apropiate genus for this fungus. The hairs seems not to be typical for Hyaloscypha. Perhaps Psilachnum or Psilocistella are better for it?
Many thanks again
Enrique
I don't know the apropiate genus for this fungus. The hairs seems not to be typical for Hyaloscypha. Perhaps Psilachnum or Psilocistella are better for it?
Many thanks again
Enrique
Marja Pennanen,
20-07-2010 16:10
Re:Hyaloscyphaceae on Rubus canes
Hello,
if this is a Hyaloscypha then H. fuckelii var alniseda is one option. The spores are though too wide. Should be in these limits: 6.1-10 (-12)x2.0-2.9 (-3.2) (from Karstenia vol 29 no.2).
Marja
if this is a Hyaloscypha then H. fuckelii var alniseda is one option. The spores are though too wide. Should be in these limits: 6.1-10 (-12)x2.0-2.9 (-3.2) (from Karstenia vol 29 no.2).
Marja
Enrique Rubio,
20-07-2010 17:20
Re:Hyaloscyphaceae on Rubus canes
Thank you Marja, but the hairs are no typical for Hyaloscypha (see my card of Hyaloscypha fuckelii var. alniseda in Ascofrance).
Raúl Tena Lahoz,
20-07-2010 18:48
Re:Hyaloscyphaceae on Rubus canes
Hola Enrique
The spores remind to those of Hyaloscypha albohyalina var. spiralis. Huhtinen talks about a 3% of populations with smooth hairs or inconspicuously warted hairs. Maybe this is one? But wait to other opinions...
Raúl
The spores remind to those of Hyaloscypha albohyalina var. spiralis. Huhtinen talks about a 3% of populations with smooth hairs or inconspicuously warted hairs. Maybe this is one? But wait to other opinions...
Raúl
Enrique Rubio,
20-07-2010 19:05
Re:Hyaloscyphaceae on Rubus canes
Hello Raúl.
Perhaps you are right, but I think the hairs have not the typical appearance of the Hyaloscypha species.
Enrique
Perhaps you are right, but I think the hairs have not the typical appearance of the Hyaloscypha species.
Enrique
Stip Helleman,
20-07-2010 20:52
Re:Hyaloscyphaceae on Rubus canes
Hi Enrique,
i think Raúl is right, for me the hairs are not so untypical in Hyaloscypha and all the rest fits well.
In Psilocistella there is no fitting species to my knowing.
cheers Stip
i think Raúl is right, for me the hairs are not so untypical in Hyaloscypha and all the rest fits well.
In Psilocistella there is no fitting species to my knowing.
cheers Stip
Enrique Rubio,
20-07-2010 20:54
Re:Hyaloscyphaceae on Rubus canes
Many thanks Stip and Raúl.
Enrique
Enrique