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Another observation of Cyathicula paludosa
B Shelbourne, 15-09-2024 12:51
B Shelbourne• Macro and habitat suggest Cyathicula.
• Confirmed by excipulum, etc.
• Receptacle also noticeably tough in sectioning and slide preparation.
• Spores suggest C. paludosa (with croziers).

Habitat: On a dead stem of Heracleum sphondylium, +/- standing, seems to have grown this year, damp and shady area, amongst herbaceous plants at the edge of a path, mixed deciduous woodland, Low Weald, England, early September, after lots of rain.


Spores: 12-14.6 (15.6) × 2.4-3 µm.

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Hans-Otto Baral, 15-09-2024 16:45
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Another observation of Cyathicula paludosa
Yes it is. Can you tell me a date and coordinates?

I have the type of C. paludosa here but need to go through it, it is 9 specimens. Some of them are clearly C. starbbaeckii on Ranunculus. It would be a pity if C. paludosa would end up in synonymy with that species. Velenovsky's diagnoses are too bad, one easily mistakes them.

If so, I wonder why this not rare species that you have found actually has no name.
B Shelbourne, 15-09-2024 19:29
B Shelbourne
Re : Another observation of Cyathicula paludosa
Looking in your folders, Velenovsky's illustratation and description of the apothecia seems more like the photos of C. starbaeckii (shape in maturity and dark patch at base of receptacle), but the spores seem more like C. paludosa (more fusiform with a line of LBs across the length). Although the range of spore lengths is more fitting for C. starbaeckii. 

From what you've said and this description, it seems possible that Velenovsky was collecting both species but gave a mixed description as a single species. I wonder if he was aware of C. (Phialea) starbaeckii and the similarities with his taxon?


I would think that the species I found has been found in Europe many time before, but perhaps it has been confused with other Cyathicula species. It may be more challenging to clearly distinguish dead material too.